036 S01 Ep 11 – LSCO Lessons Learned for BNs, BCTs, and DIVs w/Field Grade Officer OCT Panel

The Joint Readiness Training Center is pleased to present the thirty-sixth episode to air on ‘The Crucible - The JRTC Experience.’ Hosted by the Commander of Ops Group (COG), COL Matthew Hardman. Today’s guests are all seasoned Observer-Coach-Trainers from across Operations Group, MAJ(P) Drew Zabriskie, MAJ Westly “Wes” LaFitte, and MAJ James Lee.

Our guest observer-coach-trainers with nearly fifty decisive action training environment rotations between them. MAJ(P) Drew Zabriskie (L05) is the BSB Executive Officer OCT for TF Sustainment (BSB / CSSB / DSSB) with ten rotations. MAJ Westly “Wes” LaFitte is the BN Executive Officer OCT for the Fires Support TF (Field Artillery BN). MAJ James Lee is the BDE S-3 Operations Officer OCT for the BDE Command & Control (BCT HQ).

(MAJ(P) Zabriskie would become LTC Zabriskie a few short weeks post filming and MAJ Lee would become the BDE Executive Officer for BC2 as well.)

In this episode we discuss the lessons learned from field grade officer perspective in preparation for conducting large scale combat operations across multiple domains. The panel discusses large scale combat operations executed at the battalion, brigade, and division echelons, offering perspectives on a variety of topics including combined arms maneuver, transparent battlefield, fires, and contested logistics as well as emerging technologies employment.

Key lessons learned for field grade leaders at all echelons are understanding the amount of control and influence leaders must exert to be effective, grasping what you can’t control and not wasting resources in pursuit of it, understanding your area of operations and your sphere of influence within it, and lastly understanding the systems which drive all of these is critical. The goal for leaders at all echelons must be to ensure that you’re not creating problems than you’re solving for your subordinates as well as your higher headquarters. Embracing the “teamwork makes the dream work” philosophy and striving to work together as a team across the brigade combat team.

The number one question that commanders and staff ask across the force is how can we get better at the military decision making processes (MDMP)? There’s no shortcut, it’s simply sets and repetitions that make staffs better at MDMP. The largest myths that most field grade officers have when coming to JRTC is that as the “Iron Major” for their echelon that they can’t or won’t fail at any time. The combat training centers have been described as the “Ranger school for command teams and staffs.” With that in mind, every organization that comes to the CTCs is destined to fail by design. It is only through failure that growth can occur.

Part of S01 “The Leader’s Laboratory” series.

Don’t forget to checkout our annual Large Scale Combat Operations Symposium, episode 16 and episode 30 of ‘The Crucible.’ Be sure to stay to for a follow-up episode with the company team OCTs from LSCO Symposium of ’23.

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